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amadeok · Post by **amadeok** » Tue, 23. Aug 16, 23:10

Thanks for reply,
I did it and it crashed again, maybe because im using imput director to control another computer with my keyboard and mouse through wifi?
Btw when its not really a crash, its a freeze
Edit: now my most recent save freezes after a few seconds

andreihaiducul · Post by **andreihaiducul** » Tue, 23. Aug 16, 23:30

amadeok wrote:Thanks for reply,
I did it and it crashed again, maybe because im using imput director to control another computer with my keyboard and mouse through wifi?
Btw when its not really a crash, its a freeze
Edit: now my most recent save freezes after a few seconds

Sounds like the old refuelling bug. Check if any of your agents is currently refuelling and stop/restart them.

Litcube · Post by **Litcube** » Tue, 23. Aug 16, 23:39

amadeok wrote:Thanks for reply,
I did it and it crashed again, maybe because im using imput director to control another computer with my keyboard and mouse through wifi?
Btw when its not really a crash, its a freeze
Edit: now my most recent save freezes after a few seconds

Send that one.

amadeok · Post by **amadeok** » Wed, 24. Aug 16, 01:05

Litcube wrote:
amadeok wrote:Thanks for reply,
I did it and it crashed again, maybe because im using imput director to control another computer with my keyboard and mouse through wifi?
Btw when its not really a crash, its a freeze
Edit: now my most recent save freezes after a few seconds
Send that one.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/k3j6u ... 282%29.sav

scav_n_ger · Post by **scav_n_ger** » Wed, 24. Aug 16, 02:02

amadeok wrote:
Litcube wrote:
amadeok wrote:Thanks for reply,
I did it and it crashed again, maybe because im using imput director to control another computer with my keyboard and mouse through wifi?
Btw when its not really a crash, its a freeze
Edit: now my most recent save freezes after a few seconds
Send that one.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/k3j6u ... 282%29.sav

Can you describe the freeze?
Freeze for forever or just freeze until windows tells you the program has frozen with a dialog to click "OK Close" or "Find a solution" or "show details" ?

I had some occurrences where it froze, stuttered and came back.

Also i sometimes had a Windows Dialogue that forced me into desktop, minimizing X3 and telling me that the program supposedly had crashed ... but if i just closed the dialogue instead of closing X3, or "find solution" i could tab into the game and it was fine again.

Funny. i always assumed it's my sound card driver stuff, as the stuttering sound continues until i deactivate and reactivate the device.

Litcube · Post by **Litcube** » Wed, 24. Aug 16, 02:28

One of the scripts is causing it to freeze. It's difficult to debug, because I only have 2 seconds between each X3 load to debug.

TrixX · Post by **TrixX** » Wed, 24. Aug 16, 04:29

Litcube wrote:One of the scripts is causing it to freeze. It's difficult to debug, because I only have 2 seconds between each X3 load to debug.

Need -ve SETA

Crellion · Post by **Crellion** » Wed, 24. Aug 16, 07:59

After thanking again everyone for your advice and help yesterday I wanted to post the outcome:

THE GOOD
------------

Indeed simply dropping the txt file named X3AP_n.exe in the folder fools the sound installer to proceed.

THE BAD
-----------

Still when I irst run the game I got this message:
"Incorrect version of EXE file detected. Please make sure that you game content is up to date and that you use the newest available EXE files. The current version may not function correctly."

However when you press to proceed anyway the game runs without apparent incident.

THE UGLY
-----------

Still no loot drops "where I can see". Let me clarify:

1) No loot drops when I kill ships. No mosquito, no wasp no nothing. Now I read somewhere that the new system replaces the old and may result in fewer drops in low combat levels. For this reason I focused combat this time and in the 4 ingame hours of the test I am lvl14 midway to 15. Still nothing at all has dropped even though I have killed enough fighters to have had 3-4 bails (despite low combat ranks). Bails by the way work as in Wiki with items left in the ship.

[EDIT: Wiki states "In-game, FLC doesn't go above a visible amount until level 19 @ 15%" which may mean that 0 loot may be normal at level 14. However my previous play through was 12 hours ingame so I somewhat doubt I didn't have enough rank (though I don't remember). In any event as I stat below I will be play testing further to Rank 16-17 to see what happens.]

2) No loot drops from npc v npc battles when I am in system watching. Even capital ships. However loot MAY have dropped with me in system when the ship destruction happened outside the area that was visible < not 100% sure on this.

I can't quite wrap my head around the reason for this. It seems like the (whichever) script should roll the dice when a ship is destroyed by me is simply not initiating.

I will go on play testing this for a couple of days (if no solution is offered in the meantime) and will give reports from higher combat levels and when I have 100% confirmed how the rules applies (for example I also suspect that no loot ever drops from the navy shooting the pirates in Elena's Fortune because of my Adv. Satellite there but I will need some more time to be certain - I will drop satellites in a few choke points and leave others without to be sure about this rule too.)

Thanks again Litcube for finding the time to read through this.

andreihaiducul · Post by **andreihaiducul** » Wed, 24. Aug 16, 09:55

amadeok wrote:
Litcube wrote:
amadeok wrote:Thanks for reply,
I did it and it crashed again, maybe because im using imput director to control another computer with my keyboard and mouse through wifi?
Btw when its not really a crash, its a freeze
Edit: now my most recent save freezes after a few seconds
Send that one.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/k3j6u ... 282%29.sav

ST 008 Caiman Adv is attempting to dock during Refuelling. I was able to give it a Standby command with the number hotkeys and prevent the freeze. This bug has been around for a very long time and crops up every now and then.

amadeok · Post by **amadeok** » Wed, 24. Aug 16, 10:21

andreihaiducul wrote:
amadeok wrote:
Litcube wrote:
amadeok wrote:Thanks for reply,
I did it and it crashed again, maybe because im using imput director to control another computer with my keyboard and mouse through wifi?
Btw when its not really a crash, its a freeze
Edit: now my most recent save freezes after a few seconds
Send that one.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/k3j6u ... 282%29.sav
ST 008 Caiman Adv is attempting to dock during Refuelling. I was able to give it a Standby command with the number hotkeys and prevent the freeze. This bug has been around for a very long time and crops up every now and then.

Thanks very much, any possible workaround?
edit: I managed to give a the standby command to the caiman 008 and the freeze was prevented. I'll leave it as is for now hopefully it wont freeze.

amadeok · Post by **amadeok** » Wed, 24. Aug 16, 10:34

scav_n_ger wrote:
amadeok wrote:
Litcube wrote:
amadeok wrote:Thanks for reply,
I did it and it crashed again, maybe because im using imput director to control another computer with my keyboard and mouse through wifi?
Btw when its not really a crash, its a freeze
Edit: now my most recent save freezes after a few seconds
Send that one.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/k3j6u ... 282%29.sav
Can you describe the freeze?
Freeze for forever or just freeze until windows tells you the program has frozen with a dialog to click "OK Close" or "Find a solution" or "show details" ?

I had some occurrences where it froze, stuttered and came back.

Also i sometimes had a Windows Dialogue that forced me into desktop, minimizing X3 and telling me that the program supposedly had crashed ... but if i just closed the dialogue instead of closing X3, or "find solution" i could tab into the game and it was fine again.

Funny. i always assumed it's my sound card driver stuff, as the stuttering sound continues until i deactivate and reactivate the device.

To me it doesnt recover at all. I left it for 20 min to try that.
edit: working so far by setting caiman advance 008 in standbye

andreihaiducul · Post by **andreihaiducul** » Wed, 24. Aug 16, 12:56

Litcube wrote:One of the scripts is causing it to freeze. It's difficult to debug, because I only have 2 seconds between each X3 load to debug.

I think the problem is that there is a line missing in Lib.Cmd.Refuel.Pre.xml:175

Code: Select all

= [THIS]-> buy $AmountToBuy units of {Energy Cells}

similar to the instruction at line 130. I don't really understand why so much code is duplicated here. To help debug this issue, you can add

Code: Select all

 = wait 1000 ms

at !move.movetostation.xml:19 and see that the infinite loop seems to be caused by the goto instruction at Lib.Cmd.Refuel.Pre.xml:183.

SpFiota · Post by **SpFiota** » Wed, 24. Aug 16, 18:17

I still can't install the soundtrack. I created a text doc called X3AP_N.exe as instructed, but no luck. I still get the same error.

The Q · Post by **The Q** » Wed, 24. Aug 16, 18:24

If the installer check for the exe name is case sensitive, then the name should be "X3AP_n.exe" (with a lowercase "N").

Crellion wrote:THE BAD
-----------

Still when I irst run the game I got this message:
"Incorrect version of EXE file detected. Please make sure that you game content is up to date and that you use the newest available EXE files. The current version may not function correctly."

However when you press to proceed anyway the game runs without apparent incident.

I think this was described here previously as not being a problem at all. (The .exe probably just checks a file number somewhere, which is otherwise modified by LU.)

dizzy · Post by **dizzy** » Wed, 24. Aug 16, 20:48

SpFiota wrote:I still can't install the soundtrack. I created a text doc called X3AP_N.exe as instructed, but no luck. I still get the same error.

The Soundtrack installer has been updated to version 1.2.1 which won't have this check. Either you use version 1.2 and create that X3AP_n.exe or download the ~2GB 1.2.1 installer and run that one.

Litcube · Post by **Litcube** » Wed, 24. Aug 16, 22:32

andreihaiducul wrote: I think the problem is that there is a line missing in Lib.Cmd.Refuel.Pre.xml:175

It is, yes. Patch incoming.

Litcube · Post by **Litcube** » Wed, 24. Aug 16, 22:39

V1.7.2 patch released

Change log

Download

Installation instructions

H. Scumdog · Post by **H. Scumdog** » Thu, 25. Aug 16, 00:59

Loving this mod so far but there I am a bit confused about mining, I have searched this thread but with well over 700 pages I cant seem to find any definite solution to my problem, which I am sure is in fact MY problem

I want to set up an automated miner to earn me some scratch in my first few hours of my game, and go from there. The wiki says that Litcube changed the functionality of the MDS, but so replies in this thread seem to confirm my own findings, that Lit removed the MDS from the game. Is this true? and if so how can i set up my automated miner?

I have scanned roids in a system, outfitted my mercury super freighter with ore collector, nav software, special command software.

I am able to select Mine in special commands and the would be miner will fly to that system, but upon arrival it stops in space and I recieve a message saying mining could not be done because MDS is not installed

So can I only use the nexus miner as a mobile miner as the wiki would have me believe? if so whats the point of that?

thanks in advance for any help, Im basically just confirming that i need the purpose built mining ships, but any replies would be greatly appreciated

Litcube · Post by **Litcube** » Thu, 25. Aug 16, 01:06

I'm not sure how much clearer I can be about the MDS in the wiki.

I think I don't understand your question.

scav_n_ger · Post by **scav_n_ger** » Thu, 25. Aug 16, 02:51

H. Scumdog wrote:Loving this mod so far but there I am a bit confused about mining, I have searched this thread but with well over 700 pages I cant seem to find any definite solution to my problem, which I am sure is in fact MY problem

I want to set up an automated miner to earn me some scratch in my first few hours of my game, and go from there. The wiki says that Litcube changed the functionality of the MDS, but so replies in this thread seem to confirm my own findings, that Lit removed the MDS from the game. Is this true? and if so how can i set up my automated miner?

I have scanned roids in a system, outfitted my mercury super freighter with ore collector, nav software, special command software.

I am able to select Mine in special commands and the would be miner will fly to that system, but upon arrival it stops in space and I recieve a message saying mining could not be done because MDS is not installed

So can I only use the nexus miner as a mobile miner as the wiki would have me believe? if so whats the point of that?

thanks in advance for any help, Im basically just confirming that i need the purpose built mining ships, but any replies would be greatly appreciated

Hi there, H.

Mining works. It is a long term investment before you make a profit so do not be disappointed.

MDS exist. They are sold in some equipment docks in Teladi and Paranid space. MDS factories exist as well. They're also located in Teladi and Paranid sectors. If you are really serious about mining, you can buy your own MDS factory.

You can use the ingame encyclopedia (Sidebar -> Personal -> Advanced - Encyclopedia -> Software & Equipment Commands) to check on the exact minimum requirements for your mining ship to work.

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